Addeddate 2019-02-26 16:21:01 Identifier A check of Hodgdons loading manuals shows these two powders using the same charge weight produce the same velocities and pressures. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The Freedom Arms Model 97 also is in this group. Heavy loads that are safe for use in the Ruger Redhawk would destroy a fine Colt SAA. The new rifle is built on an aluminum billet chassis with carbon-fiber forend and cheek riser featuring V-block bedding. bullet type,style,powder ,amount,col.,primeres,and if possable fps. That brings us to the next level, which includes 45 Colt revolvers built on the Ruger Super Blackhawk frame and the Ruger Old Model Blackhawk, the arrival of which led to two separate load sections showing up in loading manuals. On the other end are the Ruger Only loads. hi guy, for awhile now i have slowly been adding to my collection,,i just got 2 molds, a rcbs 255 grain ,,and a lyman 325 grain gc,,,i got the dies, the powder, had dale put my name on miha list for his 45 long colt hollow point mold, ,i have some brass, i got the dies,, but still looking for that one 45 long colt gun. www.hodgdonreloading.com Broc NES Member Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2010 Cartridge Filter By Bullet Weight Powder Type Recipes Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Keiths #454424 was an excellent bullet, but it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. If you want those speeds and power, buy a .44 magnum. In actual weight, Pyrodex is lighter than black powder, being about 80 percent of the weight of black powder. It shoots VERY well, the recoil is tolerable, and it cuts a clean hole in both targets and small game. So both the up and down positions were closer in speeds and the spreads were noticeably closer. Lyman has been an important name for shooters for well over 100 years. Some of my most accurate loads are as follows: The Lyman/Thompson #454490 GC over 20.0 grains of #42274 gives a group at 1,275 fps or 20.0 grains of #2400 for 150 fps more velocity and a group just over 1. For the 45 Colt this is the Single Action Army revolver. For testing I go with three shots at 45 yards. Reddings excellent Dual Ring Carbide sizing die was used to prep cases as it works the case less, results in longer case life, seems to improve accuracy and eliminates the Coke bottle shape forward of the head. His #452490GC was originally made for the 45 Auto Rim cartridge for use in the Smith & Wesson 1950 Target revolver, but I also use the Thompson design, which weighs around 255 grains, for heavy-duty loads approaching the energy of the 44 Magnum in the Ruger Blackhawk. Any time I have a 45 Colt that doesnt shoot the way I think it should, I dont give up until I try this load of IMR 4227 with Keiths bullet. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2021. My brass of choice is Starlines excellent 45 Colt brass with CCI 300 Large Pistol primers for all powders, except I switch to CCI 350 Magnum Pistol primers with IMR 4227, H110, W296, and all black powder and black powder substitutes. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Contest void where prohibited by law. His 45 Colt bullet was #454424 and was available for decades from Lyman. Below you'll find some basic data for each cartridge to help get you started. Sam Colt became a millionaire producing percussion revolvers. 11; firearms used: Universal Receiver & Ruger Blackhawk; barrel length: 7 1/2"; twist: 1-16"; groove dia. 454190 (255 grains) shares a similar profile as the original Government bullet but is a plainbase design that is generally very accurate and can be sized to around .454 to .455 inch for guns with larger throats. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM March 2022, P.O. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Rifle Data Here you will find load data for some of the most recent cartridges on the market, with more being added each week. My powders of choice are Clays, HP-38, HS-6, Universal, Trail Boss, H110, IMR 4227, W296, and W231. considered more the norm. The 9.2 got the best SD and EP, if that means much to you. I was fortunate to find one of each. About the same time the Winchester Trappers arrived, Marlin had a very limited run of 500 each of .44 Magnum and .45 Colt Trappers. I chose the Herco powder to utilize as much case capacity as possible. As always there are occasional exceptions, including two guns manufactured in 1900 and 1902 that slugged .458 and .453 inch, respectively, but they seemed to be more out-of-spec than the normal. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. SCCY DVG-1 Sub-Compact Striker-Fired Pistol: Full Review, Buyer Beware: Buying 'Bargain' Guns Can Be Risky. It would also be excellent for a defense load. Dropping down to 30 grains results in an easier-shooting 835 fps and a group of 1.13 inches. John makes up dummy loads using available cast bullets to make Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. There were no 45 Colt heavyweight bullets available at the time, so we sized down 300-grain 45-70 bullets in several stages, going from around 0.460 inch to 0.452 inch. I also have been having good luck lately with 10.0 grains of HS-6 and 250- to 260-grain bullets, which duplicates the performance of the early black powder loads. Subscriber Services. West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, State Agency: In slugging the barrels of later pre-World War II guns with wider flat lands, serial numbers 347xxx (1924) and 355xxx (1936), along with two factory. Quality 300-grain jacketed bullets are also offered by all three of these manufacturers. Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th edition. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Keiths #454424 was an excellent bullet, but it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. On paper, the 357 Magnum was the first cartridge to exceed the 45 Colts muzzle energy, but many knowledgeable sixgunners, Elmer Keith included, believed the 45 Colt actually offered more practical power than the First Magnum. Today, it remains one of our most popular sixgun cartridges. It is loaded not by weight, but by volume. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. and how they grouped at ther yrds. It's always had a great reputation as a man stopper. That is, until I tried IMR 4227 with Lymans #452424 and a 20.0-grain load, and that combination produced one-hole groups. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. For comparison the above .44 Magnum factory loads (which are admittedly conservative) have a TKO factor only slightly higher at 17.35. For the 45 Colt this is the Single Action Army revolver. 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No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. im leaning towards the ruger blackhawk bisley 45 long cot 5.5 barrel. North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, State Agency: The original conical bullet found in black powder 45 Colt loads from the 1870s is very close to the Lyman #454190 and the RCBS #45-255 FN. A Redding Dual Ring Carbide sizing die was used to develop handload data. They do provide identical results of muzzle velocities and pressures using the same charge weights, and I use them interchangeably. It didnt take long for manufacturers to offer heavier bullets, and two of the best came from NEI. You can certainly use the Jacketed bullets fine, but dont look for incredible speeds. Vermont Fish & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. It is clear why the .45 Colt had such a stellar reputation as a man stopper and for its effectiveness on game. No data for RX7 and this bullet in the 1886 Winchester & 1895 Marlin section. While only sporadically available as a component, the Remington .456-inch 250-grain lead hollowbase bullet will obturate to minimize bullet tilting. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Improving the Keith Bullet Keith's #454424 was an excellent bullet, however it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: Moving up to the second level, loads at around 1,000 fps with the same-weight bullet are used in the Colt New Frontier, Smith & Wesson Model 25/625, Ruger Flat-Top New Model, and the Ruger New Vaquero. For many decades reloaders have been arguing over whether or not H110 and W296 were identical. Universal is an excellent powder for the 45 Colt with 8.0 grains under a 250-grain bullet duplicating the old black powder load. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Reloader 7 - 37.0 grains start, 39.0 grains max. My most used powders for these loads are #2400, #9, #4227 and H110. Note that the Ruger New Vaquero uses a smaller frame and cylinder South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: (NOTE: Sections marked Ruger Only are not for the New Model Blackhawk Flat-Tops or the New Vaquero!) I have yet to find any levergun or sixgun that does not shoot this Dick Casull-designed bullet exceptionally well. The .44 Magnum is a great cartridge that offers a flatter trajectory and helps to make hits easier at longer distances; however, this added performance comes at the cost of greater pressures, heavier guns, increased recoil and muzzle report. Due to their reduced velocity combined with greater resistance in the bore, I dont recommend loads that produce less than 750 fps because there is a significant chance of sticking a bullet in the bore. ), RCBS #45-270SWC (284 gr.). They do provide identical results of muzzle velocities and pressures using the same charge weights, and I use them interchangeably. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM April 2023, P.O. Later production revolvers and lever action rifles are built with .451 diameter grooves., This statement has been repeated many times but holds very little truth. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Pyrodex P is the equivalent of Triple-F or FFFg black powder. For several reasons they should not be used. rifling. Give a Gift Contest void where prohibited by law. They are my choice for the heaviest loads especially with cast bullets weighing 300 grains and heavier. Lyman 49 says reloader 7 has been a long time favorite for .45-70. I have been surprised by the fact the Marlin feeds Keith-style bullets perfectly. The Colt factory has told me these large throats are intended to keep chamber pressures low, which is nonsense. What the John Wick is 9mm Major, Anyway. Many early black-powder-era Colt revolvers (1873-1898) feature .449- to .452-inch throats that corresponded reasonably with .450- to .452-inch barrel groove diameters. I have found HS-6, Universal, and W231 powders work very well for standard loads, while IMR 4227 bulks up nicely in 45 Colt brass. It is a good choice for self-defense, long-range shooting, hunting everything on four legs, and just plain fun shooting. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. I advise staying away from loads intended for custom sixguns with five-shot cylinders and it has also been proven the lever-action is not strong enough for .454 loads. Deployed military should use stateside address. What has varied significantly is the throat diameter (ball end, chamber mouth, etc.) These can be safely driven to 1,200 fps in the Ruger Blackhawk. A huge hit among hunters, it remained popular in deer camps long after the .30-30 Win. Knowing this measurement for a given revolver is critical to select the correct components to achieve accuracy. Lyman now offers it as #452424, and it is a 255-grain bulletor thereabouts, depending upon the alloy used. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP, Hornady 250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. I have found two things necessary gas checks and hard alloys, also in most cases muzzle velocities over 1,200-1,300 fps. I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be. SWC - 9.6 grains Unique Lyman # 454190 , 250 gr. Want to practice more with that big-bore hunting rifle or enjoy that magnum pistol more at the range? This brings us to powders, and I use a lot of Hodgdon powders. Instead of being overly large, Rugers have been way too tight, with some measuring around 0.449 inch, but now Ruger is cutting all cylinder throats at 0.451 to 0.452 inch. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. check out the. This was achieved with 40 grains of black powder. I use the same industry measurement as the .45 ACP .470 inch. The more powerful loads are only suitable for strong handguns like the Ruger Blackhawk and the Thompson Center Contender. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. IMR Trail Boss, 4227, IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. In 1935 we entered the Magnum Sixgun Era with the arrival of the 357 Magnum; however, long before that we had the 45 Colt. Over the nearly 15 decades since its arrival, there have been many attempts to pronounce it dead. The new-for-2023 lineup includes ultralight hunting stocks and a VGA 2-pound adjustable vertical-grip stock. The Lee bullet works well in my Winchester (Miroku) 1873. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: Bullet is .452 diameter. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Starting load is 12.4 grains and top load is 15.4 grains of Blue Dot. New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. All Freedom Arms cylinders are held to very tight tolerances and whether using 45 Colt or 454 Casull brass, I size with a special 454 die. Contest open to U.S. residents only. The Colt fanciers had .45's, usually in the New Service model, unless they were cowboy fans who had SAA's. The guys that worked in the paper mills and machine shops had 1917's. If you want-ed a handgun with power, the GI surplus .45 ACP in the 1917 was the only thing you could afford to shoot as reloading "ca'tridges" was unknown. The .45 Colt is a grand cartridge that has survived because it is so good. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. We were soon shooting 300-grain bullets at 1,200 fps from a 7.5-inch-barreled Ruger revolver. Over the nearly 15 decades since its arrival, there have been many attempts to pronounce it dead. Camp Guns: Sometimes Perfect, Other Times Not But Often Essential! Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. (In fairness, many historians maintain that original loads contained 40 grains of black powder with 255-grain bullets, including noted Colt authority John Kopec.) During my early teenage years I acquired a beautiful pre-World War II Colt SAA .45 that was customized by one of the masters during the 1920s. The original loading was a bullet of approximately 255 grains with a muzzle velocity of somewhere around 850 to 900 fps. None of these loads will work through the action of my Rossi .45 Colt Model 92. Today the throats of most Colt revolvers measure .457 to .458 inch, which is the same dimension used by Smith & Wesson during the late 1970s, Uberti and others. Nonetheless, the 30-grain charge with a 250-grain bullet reached around 850 fps from a 7.5-inch barrel. When the Marlin and Winchester Trappers first arrived in the early 80s, the #1 45 Colt bullet was still Elmer Keiths #454424 weighing about 260 grains from my alloy. It was outfitted with adjustable sights, a 5.5-inch barrel, one-piece checkered walnut stocks and was timed precisely with an outstanding trigger pull. HS7 is slowest of the group (Similar to 2400) The .45 Colts origins started in 1871 when Colt began designing a new sixgun specifically to house metallic cartridges. My maine load is the Lyman 454190 cast of ww + 2% tin. This Colt SAA .45 was manufactured in 1893 and saw extensive use on the frontier prior to being professionally restored. replacement barrels from the 1930s, each slugged between .451 and .4515 inch. The proud tradition and history of Lyman Products began simply in the late 1800?s when William Lyman, an avid outdoorsman and inventor, created a product that resolved problems with gun sights of his day. Everyone who has a Ruger Blackhawk or Freedom Arms single-action revolver realizes the roots of these modern guns go back to the Colt Single Action Army. After all the work and expense, it turned out to be a somewhat mediocre performer. REDUCE RIFLE AND HANDGUN CHARGE WEIGHTS BY 10% TO ESTABLISH A STARTING LOAD. Technical Specifications (based on the respective safety standard - see more details in tab "Datasheet" if available) Caliber: .45 Colt. The Complete Reloading Manual For The 45 Colt Item Preview remove-circle Share or Embed This Item. Box 502795, San Diego, CA 92150-1377. The key for best shooting is to size cast bullets accordingly and open the throats if necessary. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new propellants and bullets, and links to complimentary product pages. When Ray Thompson was designing his line of bullets, he did not neglect the 45. The original loading was a bullet of approximately 255 grains with a muzzle velocity of somewhere around 850 to 900 fps. .45 Colt Keith bullets: Lyman #454424 (264 gr. Contest void where prohibited by law. A favorite pastime of many dedicated sixgunners is sitting around a campfire arguing the merits of their particular choice of caliber. Custom five-shooters built on the Ruger Blackhawk, the Ruger Redhawk, and the Freedom Arms Model 83 top the list. These can be safely driven to 1,200 fps in the Ruger Blackhawk. It should be crimped over the ogive and seated to an overall cartridge length of around 1.575 inches, which helps reduce case capacity and results in lower extreme spreads with powders that tend to be position sensitive.

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